Standalone Projects Fix '05 Civic Type-R Damaged Camshaft & Cam Holder

Discussion in 'Project & Modification Logs' started by SpeedyGee, Wednesday 8th Aug, 2012.

  1. SpeedyGee Club Manager Club Staff

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    Another patient came into my garage over the weekend (couple of weeks ago it was my sisters Zafira that had broken a piston).

    This time it was my nephews Civic Type-R. A couple of days ago it had made a loud screeching noise on startup. The engine was quickly stopped. Upon restarting (rather reluctantly) there was no noise at all and everything seemed to be fine.

    After discussing the sound with my nephew (eliminated water pump sound, clutch release bearing sound etc) and also given the fact that it thrown a CEL a few weeks ago which indicated cam position sensor range error, we decide not to take any risks and to look into the issue further at the weekend.

    I was fearing a spun bearing or similar but decided to have a look at the top end of the engine first.

    As soon as we took off the cam cover we could immediately saw what the issue was :-

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    Compare that to the inlet side :-
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    All this was due to the fact that the bolt on the far side of the cam holder had worked its way loose !!

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    I have to be really critical here. so apologies to Honda UK.

    That is the Legendary Swindon build quality , you will be surprised I have seen the scraper ring missing on piston one in CR-V 2.0 engine,the owner was wondering why his car was eating oil.

    This is not an isolated issue Swindon has a habit of leaving engine mount bolt lose then get the dealer to torque them.
     
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    Some more pics :-

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    Replacement cam sourced ... ressambly :-

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    That's better :-

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    So CTR all fixed and running sweet once again.
     
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    Excellent work buddy :GoodJob:, where did you get a donor camshaft from ?
     
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    Rang around a few local CTROC members, one guy does K20 and K24 builds, got the cam from him.
     
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    Enjoyed working on the K20 ... working on the Vauxhall was just piss take, hated it .. LOL
     
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    So what exactly happened here to cause this and what damage did it do?
     
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  9. Ichiban Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    The cam holder bolt was not sufficiently torqued or the camshaft has developed an imbalance. This is not the first FN2 to do this nor the last..
     
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    Bolt on far side of Cam holder number one worked itself loose. This caused friction on the exhaust cam, damaging cam and cam holder. These were replaced to fix the issue. By the way CJ this is an EP3 not FN2.
     
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    The burnt look is the excessive heat that it generated burning off oil.
     
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  12. Ichiban Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    whoopsie :Whistle: still Swindon thou,but this has been seen on the FN2
     
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  13. Ichiban Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    You won't see this rubbish on DC2 EK9 DC5 FD2 , Swindon hell start praying.
     
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    Pic of the engine bay :-

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    I do like the look of a K Series engine :Smile:
     
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    I am glad this car found you otherwise the cost of buying new parts and labour would have tested the patience and the car could have been scrapped. You are a star bud, hopefully another member could use your services in the hour of need.

    K series are Honda masterpieces not in the same legendary status of the B & H series VTEC , but the states the K series tuners have taken the all motor builds to another level. K series will eclipse the old VTEC legendary status soon.
     
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    Yeah, really jealous of the mods that the guys over the pond do. Curse the fact that there is no modding scene over here. Whose to blame for that ? Is the insurance companies ?

    I had been contemplating doing a Frankenstein conversion on my K24 (putting a CTR head on it), but alas the drive by wire throttle means you can't map the ECU in the Accord :Sobbing::Ohdear::Foolish:
     
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    I think the modding culture is here but very underground it not in your face and loud and proud, the market is so niche that everyone knows everyone it has not gone viral. It has not gone mainstream yet cost and insurance companies fleecing are the two factors..

    That why I see all the Honda modified cars on the track.

    as for your build you want to have a chat with Will at RDT -- RACE DYNO TUNING -- or https://www.facebook.com/rdt.tv he is close friend of mine and he specialises in custom engine builds and custom wiring harness and ECU. He build bespoke car and engine non of this file upload rubbish and with the best dyno on the market his readings are accurate as per ISO standards.

    He has done loads of cars for the VTEC challenge and his tuned cars win regularly , I am sure he he help out and give you the pointers you need.
     
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    Thanks CJ, I'll keep Will in mind if I ever get back on that hype again.
     
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  19. Ichiban Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    If I had won the euro million last weekend Will would have me as his sole customer lol. he is that hot.
     
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  20. SpeedyGee Club Manager Club Staff

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    My nephew sold this car middle of last year, however, we heard recently that she'd been written off in a collision, owner was driving her very early on winters morning, went round a corner on an A road somewhere, straight into the back of a truck that was blocking the road due to an earlier accident.

    Such a shame as the car had still been running well until it met it's rather abrupt ending.
     
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