Engine & Gearbox Engine timing chain

Discussion in '7th Generation (2003-2008) [Acura TSX]' started by Kaseins, Tuesday 12th Feb, 2019.

  1. Kaseins New Member Getting Started

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    Hi
    Have this rattling noise in engine bay and suspect it could be Chain problem, where you suggest to buy parts?
    Prices are so different
    Don’t want to pay fortune but also don’t want a crap
    Any suggestions
    Thanks
     
  2. SpeedyGee Club Manager Club Staff

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    For anything like this, you should be looking at only OEM parts.

    What engine do you have?
     
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  3. Kaseins New Member Getting Started

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    It’s 2,2 diesel
    If I will choose OEM parts it will be More than cost of car itself. :Grin:
     
  4. SpeedyGee Club Manager Club Staff

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    Maybe just drive it until (and if) it fails totally. Whose to say that after spending a load of money on the engine something else like the DMF or the clutch don't give out next.
     
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  5. Kaseins New Member Getting Started

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    That’s true
    You never know
     
  6. Zebster Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    You need to warm up the engine until you are sure that the rattle is present, then quickly (!) slip off the aux belt, then run the engine for a short period without the belt on to see if the rattle is still present. The alternator pulley and crankshaft pulley can often be responsible for rattling noises.

    I used Febi chains when I replaced mine, but I don't believe they still supply the oil pump/balancer chain?
     
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  7. Kaseins New Member Getting Started

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    Just Find out that its definerly timing chain problem
    So need parts ASAP
    Any suggestions
    Anyone bought from eBay
     
  8. Zebster Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I bought my chains from eBay.
     
  9. Kaseins New Member Getting Started

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    There is FAI brand on eBay
    Seems ok, even has its own website
     
  10. Zebster Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    You'll need tensioners, and probably shoes, and possibly guides, maybe even sprockets, also sealant (I used Loctite 5920). It'll add up to a hefty sum, plus it's a big job (injectors have to come out, plus the engine has to be hung on a hoist and the front subframe lowered to get the sump off). I'd definitely heed this advice previously given, especially if your Accord is an old and practically worthless pre-facelift. They can go on for years with a noisy chain:-
     
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  11. Kaseins New Member Getting Started

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    Just found ASHIKA timing chain kit with all necessary bits for 140£ seems quite good for me and a labour around 200£
    A bit pricey bu tif I will get good car at the end I’m happy
     
  12. Zebster Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I'm highly suspicious of the costs quoted for both parts and labour... that total is about what I spent on parts alone, and I reused as many parts as possible (including the expensive cam chain tensioner, all sprockets, all the guides and the oil pump chain shoe). You are intending to replace both chains? For info, while the cam chain is the one that usually stretches and gets noisy, it's usually the oil pump chain that breaks and ruins the engine.
     
  13. Kaseins New Member Getting Started

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    Genuine Honda kit is around 400£ and a labour is all right except main dealer which charges fortune
    As said before it’s iseless to invest loads of money in old car
    If this chain will hold for one till two years I will be happy man
     
  14. Zebster Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    So you're only replacing the cam chain?
     
  15. Kaseins New Member Getting Started

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    I think I will replace all kit and both chains
     
  16. honda_saj Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    £200 labour does seem cheap for work involved.
     
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  17. SpeedyGee Club Manager Club Staff

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    Very much sounds like an underestimated job and if they've underestimated it means they have no clue how to do this job properly, I'd take that as a big warning sign!
     
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  18. Kaseins New Member Getting Started

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    Will see how it goes
    Can’t afford paying fortune this time so have to go with cheap option. Fingers crossed
     
  19. honda_saj Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Hope for the best however as said this is major job if not done right you will have issues afterwards.
     
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  20. mw88 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Will see if I can dig out the invoice from when my chain went - The garage I use aren't the cheapest, so I paid £750 for all chains/tensioners including oil pump chain on my 2.4

    There may have been more on the invoice though.
     
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